Reconciliation with Ireland's past

Memories of corporal punishment This documentary is about corporal punishment in Ireland. The practice was widely supported by the state, teachers and even parents. I was in primary school in the 70s and witnessed quite a lot of physical punishment and was on the receiving end of it also.

Various impliments were used, the...



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www.rte.ie The Joe-Show on Radio Eirean 1 is what spurred me to start or revive a discussion on this uncomfortable and painful topic that many want to forget or to brush under the carpet as if it had never happened.

What started the ball rolling is the recent thrust of the past pupils educated by the Catholic order of Spiritans -- formerly Holy Ghost Fathers so as to obtain redress and acknowledgement and a public hearing of what they edured. Joe Duffy devoted two or three programs to the topic but what began as phone-in about sexual abuse turned into one about the physical and mental abuse connected with corporal punishment. It make shocking listening -- and I belong to the generation of souls who had to endure all of this.

In a nutshell: When all my education was said and done I was pretty happy to leave Ireland in the wave of emigration and leave that windswept island to the wind rain and priests. In later life it does hurt me to think of the dismay of my parents that I had made my life abroad and was very open in my scathing descriptions of priests, clerics and Christain brothers. For me it was "Good bye to all that".

But listening to the baying hounds on the radio I wonder will there be a pogrom against the disappearing cohort of clerics. Thoughts, sentiments? Has the media gone too far and is it in danger of becoming anti-religious? I guess I'm a bit of a contradiction. For years I was leading the field in my attacks on the Church.

But think of the abundance poverty, ignorance and guilt in Ireland at that time. yosef shompeter said: Memories of corporal punishment This documentary is about corporal punishment in Ireland. The practice was widely supported by the state, teachers and even parents.

I was in primary school in the 70s and witnessed quite a lot of physical punishment and was on the receiving end of it also. Various impliments were used, the..

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But listening to the baying hounds on the radio I wonder will there be a pogrom against the disappearing cohort of clerics. Thoughts, sentiments? Has the media gone too far and is it in danger of becoming anti-religious? Click to expand..

. People recalled experiences of physical abuse. Where does the 'baying hounds' analogy come into it? Myself and fellow classmates were beaten by mostly Christian Brothers and some teachers.

Punched, kicked, leather strap. Hurley in one case I recall. We just accepted it as normal.

'Pogrom'? Calling out abusers is not a pogrom. Abusing the term is disrespectful to Jewish people IMO. yosef shompeter said: I guess I'm a bit of a contradiction.

For years I was leading the field in my attacks on the Church. But think of the abundance poverty, ignorance and guilt in Ireland at that time. Click to expand.

.. Maybe a case of selective memory and sentiment for old Ireland.

Corporal punishment in schools was abolished in most of western Europe by the time it was banned by Ireland in 1982, but maybe surprisingly for some, in the Anglosphere Ireland seems to have led the way by being the first to ban it outright. Even more surprisingly (or maybe not) it is still legal in 17 American states, mostly in Bible belt states. Weirdly, a case was taken by the heads of a number of English Christian private schools as late as 2005 through the courts arguing that the ban on corporal punishment was an infringement on their religious liberty.

They lost, but it does highlight the link between the practice and the looney Christian right. School corporal punishment - Wikipedia en.wikipedia.

org Raetsel said: Corporal punishment in schools was abolished in most of western Europe by the time it was banned by Ireland in 1982, but maybe surprisingly for some, in the Anglosphere Ireland seems to have led the way by being the first to ban it outright. Even more surprisingly (or maybe not) it is still legal in 17 American states, mostly in Bible belt states. Weirdly, a case was taken by the heads of a number of English Christian private schools as late as 2005 through the courts arguing that the ban on corporal punishment was an infringement on their religious liberty.

They lost, but it does highlight the link between the practice and the looney Christian right. School corporal punishment - Wikipedia en.wikipedia.

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Not forgetting corporal punishment was only banned in the 6 counties in 1987. mac tíre said: Not forgetting corporal punishment was only banned in the 6 counties in 1987. Click to expand.

.. It was still legal in some privately run schools until as recently as 2003.

The Free Ps, don't ya know! Church to fight school cane ban PLANS to ban corporal punishment in Northern Ireland's independent schools could be challenged in the courts, it was claimed today. www.belfasttelegraph.

co.uk Travis Bickle said: People recalled experiences of physical abuse. Where does the 'baying hounds' analogy come into it? Myself and fellow classmates were beaten by mostly Christian Brothers and some teachers.

Punched, kicked, leather strap. Hurley in one case I recall. We just accepted it as normal.

'Pogrom'? Calling out abusers is not a pogrom. Abusing the term is disrespectful to Jewish people IMO. Maybe a case of selective memory and sentiment for old Ireland.

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Well in the 70's in NS, it was 4 non religious teachers we had and the 2 teachers we had in 3/4 and 5/6 classes were not only the physical abuse but all so the mental abuse. In later years when talking to other people and the physical abuse they suffered were from lay teachers. Round tower said: Well in the 70's in NS, it was 4 non religious teachers we had and the 2 teachers we had in 3/4 and 5/6 classes were not only the physical abuse but all so the mental abuse.

In later years when talking to other people and the physical abuse they suffered were from lay teachers. Click to expand..

. Yes, we'd a few. I saw one teacher give a kid a full on dig in the ribs, while the kid was seated looking at a workbook.

Just decided to dig him..