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Dutch populist party in shock provincial elections win Forum for Democracy wins most votes as PM Mark Rutte’s party loses Senate majority www.irishtimes.com Despite being one of the top economic performers in the sluggish eurozone , a new anti euro anti EU party has shocked the Dutch political establishment.
Only formed in 2016 its on track to exceed Ruttes party in the Senate. Parliamentary elections scheduled for March 2021. Country after country sending a democratic message .
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but the ensconced elite in Brussels remain deaf LOL, the Irish Times article begins " An upstart populist party. . .
". Imagine them saying that about the SocDems or any of the multitude of virtue-signalling lefty outfits that spawn like mushrooms. [B]Mick Caul[/B] @[B]caulmick[/B] 1m1 minute ago More Plan to turn the hotel In Rooskey into a centre for asylum seekers will not now take place.
# Todaysor A Voice said: LOL, the Irish Times article begins " An upstart populist party. . .
". Imagine them saying that about the SocDems or any of the multitude of virtue-signalling lefty outfits that spawn like mushrooms. Click to expand.
.. The SDs aren't an upstart populist party.
They're a sulk party. Shortall couldn't understand why Lab didn't back her in her ill-judged spat with her boss when she was a junior minister so she flounced and set up her own little party to soothe her ego. RasherHash said: [B]Mick Caul[/B] @[B]caulmick[/B] 1m1 minute ago More Plan to turn the hotel In Rooskey into a centre for asylum seekers will not now take place.
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Cue outrage! Dutch elections are great because it reminds me of who is leader of the Socialist Party there brughahaha said: Dutch populist party in shock provincial elections win Forum for Democracy wins most votes as PM Mark Rutte’s party loses Senate majority www.irishtimes.com Despite being one of the top economic performers in the sluggish eurozone , a new anti euro anti EU party has shocked the Dutch political establishment.
Only formed in 2016 its on track to exceed Ruttes party in the Senate. Parliamentary elections scheduled for March 2021. Country after country sending a democratic message .
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but the ensconced elite in Brussels remain deaf Click to expand...
So let them have a go. How many Right Wing Messiahs is that? I lost count. They come, they go.
Must be approaching the ton, if you start with Mussolini, who founded his Fascist party one hundred years ago. Baron von Biffo said: The SDs aren't an upstart populist party. They're a sulk party.
Shortall couldn't understand why Lab didn't back her in her ill-judged spat with her boss when she was a junior minister so she flounced and set up her own little party to soothe her ego. Click to expand..
. Things aren't going well for Róisín. The Gannon wing is running a candidate who according to govt.
leaks lied in order to get asylum. Róisín and the top brass ordered a review, quite rightly. Gannon's faction - true upstarts - are disgusted.
The Irish Times and sundry SJWs are equally disgusted that anyone would have the temerity to insist on truth and honesty in the vetting of candidates. I mean, who are they to stand in the way of the woke revolution! But this is the ST's inconvenient claim: The first female asylum seeker to stand for election in Ireland has given inaccurate information about her background, The Sunday Times has established. Official details on Ellie Kisyombe’s entry into Ireland do not match the account the Dublin city council candidate has given in recent media interviews.
It has emerged that Kisyombe, a Social Democrats candidate in May’s local elections, attempted to claim asylum in the UK before being transferred back to Ireland, where she already had a student visa. Click to expand..
. This matter will presumably be ventilated and resolved justly. "The first fascist porridge was too hot, the second was too cold but the New Dutch one was just right" This time next year Rodney, there won't be a darkie left in Western Europe.
.. Baron von Biffo said: The SDs aren't an upstart populist party.
They're a sulk party. Shortall couldn't understand why Lab didn't back her in her ill-judged spat with her boss when she was a junior minister so she flounced and set up her own little party to soothe her ego. Click to expand.
.. Nonsense.
She rightly called out Reilly for his parish pump antics and her own party did not back her. owedtojoy said: So let them have a go. How many Right Wing Messiahs is that? I lost count.
They come, they go. Must be approaching the ton, if you start with Mussolini, who founded his Fascist party one hundred years ago. Click to expand.
.. I'll help you out .
.. Since 2011 , Kaczynski Poland , Orban Hungary , Le Penn France, Vox Spain , AfD Germany, Kurtz/Strache Austria, Salvini Italy , Babis Czech Republic and now Baudet in the Netherlands etc etc etc .
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never mind Brexit Now you could reflect on the fact all of them have gained enormously or even come into existence since 2011 ..and maybe , just maybe , consider they reflect a growing resentment , a growing alienation and a growing discontent .
..especially as this is formerly centrist electorates moving to the fringes .
..and you could maybe ask yourself why ? what needs changing ? Or you could take the owedtojoy/Eu approach .
..Scream "Fascists" "Theyre All Wrong except me" and stick your fingers in your ears and scream "Im not listening" and try to pretend it will all go away .
..Im sure that will work perfectly * chuckle brughahaha said: I'll help you out .
.. Since 2011 , Kaczynski Poland , Orban Hungary , Le Penn France, Vox Spain , AfD Germany, Kurtz/Strache Austria, Salvini Italy , Babis Czech Republic and now Baudet in the Netherlands etc etc etc .
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never mind Brexit Now you could reflect on the fact all of them have gained enormously or even come into existence since 2011 ..and maybe , just maybe , consider they reflect a growing resentment , a growing alienation and a growing discontent .
..especially as this is formerly centrist electorates moving to the fringes .
..and you could maybe ask yourself why ? what needs changing ? Or you could take the owedtojoy/Eu approach .
..Scream "Fascists" "Theyre All Wrong except me" and stick your fingers in your ears and scream "Im not listening" and try to pretend it will all go away .
..Im sure that will work perfectly * chuckle Click to expand.
.. I think you embarrass yourself by mention Brexit, which is such a farce that it .
Those of the others you list, possibly Orban has the best chance to hold on to power, and then only by gerrymandering the vote. Meanwhile, he enriches his family by allowing them to stick their snout into the trough of EU funds. And most of your list are not hot to trot about leaving the EU.
Orban is not - do you think he got Chinese Huawei to put a supply hub in Budapest by telling them Hungary would leave the EU? FFS, who are you kidding? https://huawei.eu/blog/european-hub-hungary These European countries are not about to shoot their dicks off, like the British - the Single Market is what gives Europe any economic buoyancy, and they are not stupid enough to see themselves flying around the world making fantastic unicorn-style trade deals. A return to inter-European tariffs would bring economic disaster.
I read yer man Baudet is hedging on leaving the EU, so is Salvini. Commonsense. If anything, they will try to take power in the EU.
In that case, you will have to oppose them. This vote all about Baudet jumping on the murders in Utrecht as "honour killings" and the fault of immigrants. Its an old formula that works short-term, but in the long run fades away.
Clanrickard said: Nonsense. She rightly called out Reilly for his parish pump antics and her own party did not back her. Click to expand.
.. Even if we accept that she had a legitimate grievance her way of addressing it showed a total lack of political nous.
By going public she made it an matter of saving face. Senior minister against junior minister and party against party meant there was no way Gilmore could back her. Any reasonably competent politician would have been able to see that it could only end one way.
Having found herself in a mess of her own making she then lashed out and blamed everyone but herself. Her little party will last as long as her own political career and then it will die having achieved absolutely nothing. owedtojoy said: I think you embarrass yourself by mention Brexit, which is such a farce that it .
Those of the others you list, possibly Orban has the best chance to hold on to power, and then only by gerrymandering the vote. Meanwhile, he enriches his family by allowing them to stick their snout into the trough of EU funds. And most of your list are not hot to trot about leaving the EU.
Orban is not - do you think he got Chinese Huawei to put a supply hub in Budapest by telling them Hungary would leave the EU? FFS, who are you kidding? https://huawei.eu/blog/european-hub-hungary These European countries are not about to shoot their dicks off, like the British - the Single Market is what gives Europe any economic buoyancy, and they are not stupid enough to see themselves flying around the world making fantastic unicorn-style trade deals. A return to inter-European tariffs would bring economic disaster.
I read yer man Baudet is hedging on leaving the EU, so is Salvini. Commonsense. If anything, they will try to take power in the EU.
In that case, you will have to oppose them. This vote all about Baudet jumping on the murders in Utrecht as "honour killings" and the fault of immigrants. Its an old formula that works short-term, but in the long run fades away.
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It may be a farce ..but its happening , something inconceivable a mere decade ago .
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.. And you'll provide the evidence you have that there was gerrymandering in Hungary .
..take your time eh ? Of course when elections dont go your way , its always outside interference or corruption isnt it .
.that seems to be what you resort to when the sticking your fingers in your ears and going "lalalala , its not happening" or "it'll fade away" proves ineffective. Baron von Biffo said: Even if we accept that she had a legitimate grievance her way of addressing it showed a total lack of political nous.
By going public she made it an matter of saving face. Senior minister against junior minister and party against party meant there was no way Gilmore could back her. Any reasonably competent politician would have been able to see that it could only end one way.
Having found herself in a mess of her own making she then lashed out and blamed everyone but herself. Her little party will last as long as her own political career and then it will die having achieved absolutely nothing. Click to expand.
.. Wheres Reilly now ? .
..she highlighted his corrupt crony politics and finished him .
..and in that she did the state some service brughahaha said: Wheres Reilly now ? .
..she highlighted his corrupt crony politics and finished him .
..and in that she did the state some service Click to expand.
.. Where's Shortall? Baron von Biffo said: Even if we accept that she had a legitimate grievance her way of addressing it showed a total lack of political nous.
By going public she made it an matter of saving face. Senior minister against junior minister and party against party meant there was no way Gilmore could back her. Any reasonably competent politician would have been able to see that it could only end one way.
Having found herself in a mess of her own making she then lashed out and blamed everyone but herself. Her little party will last as long as her own political career and then it will die having achieved absolutely nothing. Click to expand.
.. I don't support the Soc Dems but I salute her for at least for once standing up for what is right rather than what was politically expedient.
For that she deserves praise rather than sneering. Baron von Biffo said: Where's Shortall? Click to expand..
. In Dail Eireann where she always was. Baron von Biffo said: Where's Shortall? Click to expand.
.. In the Dail .
..as unlike Reilly she didnt lose her seat in 2016 .
..Game set match to Shorthall Suck it up brughahaha said: In the Dail .
..as unlike Reilly she didnt lose her seat in 2016 .
..Game set match to Shorthall Suck it up Click to expand.
.. Jeez, I totally derailed this thread, didn't I? Sorry.
